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Rainer
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 Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: Frontier Worlds Development Act |
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While I realize that we don't have enough information to actually vote, I guess we could at least start discussing certain subjects.
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The Representative from Pacifica Province would like to propose the following legislation:
1) All Frontier Worlds shall pay no more than 10% of their income to the Ministry of Finance during peacetime. For the duration of any conflict the taxes may be raised. The same provisions shall also apply to Minor Worlds, except that they should not pay more than 25% taxes.
2) To guard the Frontier Worlds against alien aggression at least 1/3 of the active duty strength of the Imperial Navy has to be deployed in these provinces at all time. Additionally defensive installations over the most threatened worlds will be built with imperial funds.
3) Large investments in the Frontier Provinces shall be subsidized by the federal budget. At least half the cost of any non-military item worth 9+ EP will be reimbursed by the Ministry of Finance (75% in case of Colony Fleets). |
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mriddle
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
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Location: Charlotte, NC
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Frontier Worlds Development Act |
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| Rainer wrote: |
While I realize that we don't have enough information to actually vote, I guess we could at least start discussing certain subjects.
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The Representative from Pacifica Province would like to propose the following legislation:
1) All Frontier Worlds shall pay no more than 10% of their income to the Ministry of Finance during peacetime. For the duration of any conflict the taxes may be raised. The same provisions shall also apply to Minor Worlds, except that they should not pay more than 25% taxes.
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No max for the major worlds... I do not like that ... I could see something like (subject to final accounting) There is a base tax rate and modifiers to that ie tax rate for Frontier is x, minor x+5% major x+10% and core x+15% .
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2) To guard the Frontier Worlds against alien aggression at least 1/3 of the active duty strength of the Imperial Navy has to be deployed in these provinces at all time. Additionally defensive installations over the most threatened worlds will be built with imperial funds.
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I would reccommend each power would be allowed to pick one world as a "home base" for a squadron/task force of the Imperial Navy
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3) Large investments in the Frontier Provinces shall be subsidized by the federal budget. At least half the cost of any non-military item worth 9+ EP will be reimbursed by the Ministry of Finance (75% in case of Colony Fleets). |
This or #1 I might can buy, but not both.. if taxes are not equal, then the core worlds are already subsidizing the Frontier and now you are asking for more subsidizing.. Not sure I like that .. |
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Taltos
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
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Location: Sol/Terra/Western Hemisphere/USA/Illinois
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Frontier Worlds Development Act |
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The Imperially Recognized Representative for County Leonis is
Lucius diLeonis, Luminary Bishop of the Divine Light and Baron Wells
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1) All Frontier Worlds shall pay no more than 10% of their income to the Ministry of Finance during peacetime. For the duration of any conflict the taxes may be raised. |
A worthy and supportable idea, based upon the needs and considerations required to support those that hold the Light at the edge of the great dark.
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The same provisions shall also apply to Minor Worlds, except that they should not pay more than 25% taxes. |
Here Leonis, and perhaps other Minor powers will have some difficulty. 25% is a considerable sum, and we have our own needs and considerations for defense and security. The Imperial Fleet, no matter how inspired, cannot be everywhere at once. Additionally, for the Frontier systems, we Minor principalities are closer and if should sudden aid be needed we are in a better position to respond... taxed too highly and we will have a difficult time having any spare resources to share.
We could discuss in a range of 15-20%...
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2) To guard the Frontier Worlds against alien aggression at least 1/3 of the active duty strength of the Imperial Navy has to be deployed in these provinces at all time. Additionally defensive installations over the most threatened worlds will be built with imperial funds. |
Leonis will support the defensive deployment of the Imperial Fleet, assuming that an adequate core is maintained to defend the Light.
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3) Large investments in the Frontier Provinces shall be subsidized by the federal budget. At least half the cost of any non-military item worth 9+ EP will be reimbursed by the Ministry of Finance (75% in case of Colony Fleets). |
Leonis would rather not bind the budget in such a way. The Ministry of Finance will require flexibility to respond to conditions as they arise, in any province of the realm.
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Steve the ERB
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Commodore Walash - Ambassador from Eridani:
We find ourselves in agreement with many of the points made by the ambassador from Leonis. Although Eridani may not be, in fact, classified as a Frontier province, it is a fact that Eridani must maintain the longest single province border with an alien nation with no less than 7 mapped jump lanes crossing the border and every Eridani world accessible in a single jump. An alien species completly different from humanity whose motives remain unknown at this time.
We would find a taxation rate of 25% to be unreasonable for our own defense and the defense of the entire Empire.
Also, dispatching 1/3 of the Imperial navy to Frontier Provinces seems wasteful. Imperial Navy units should be positioned based on military significance of the system in question, not based on the "classification" of those worlds, with reserves held in key staging areas closer to the core.
We agree completely with the Ambassador from Leonis regarding subsidized projects for the Frontier worlds. Either they pay less in taxes or they get subsidies, not both.
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Rainer
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Steve the ERB wrote: |
Commodore Walash - Ambassador from Eridani:
We find ourselves in agreement with many of the points made by the ambassador from Leonis. Although Eridani may not be, in fact, classified as a Frontier province, it is a fact that Eridani must maintain the longest single province border with an alien nation with no less than 7 mapped jump lanes crossing the border and every Eridani world accessible in a single jump. An alien species completly different from humanity whose motives remain unknown at this time. |
I am sorry for the confusion I've created here. The ships should be deployed to BORDER provinces, not exclusively frontier ones. It seems that the esteemed Senator from Pacifica did forget to take his medication. You are right that these alien species cannot be trusted and we have to watch them carefully.
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| Also, dispatching 1/3 of the Imperial navy to Frontier Provinces seems wasteful. Imperial Navy units should be positioned based on military significance of the system in question, not based on the "classification" of those worlds, with reserves held in key staging areas closer to the core |
True but all these unexplored jump points also have to be watched. We do not mind however (in fact we insist) if the most powerful formations are deployed against these alien powers.
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| We agree completely with the Ambassador from Leonis regarding subsidized projects for the Frontier worlds. Either they pay less in taxes or they get subsidies, not both. |
I would then suggest that any frontier and border provinces have to pay fewer taxes. I would still like to suggest a general subsidy for colony fleets though since these at least are beyond the reach of most provinces.
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Rainer
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Frontier Worlds Development Act |
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| mriddle wrote: |
No max for the major worlds... I do not like that ... I could see something like (subject to final accounting) There is a base tax rate and modifiers to that ie tax rate for Frontier is x, minor x+5% major x+10% and core x+15% . |
That depends on the size on the imperial budget (which we cannot really discuss yet as we lack key information) but I don't think that the core worlds would have to pay much more than the minor provinces. While we want to redistribute some of the wealth I don't think that anybody wants to bankrupt the major worlds.
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